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Posted 12 August 2017 - 10:28 AM

"Alt-right nationalist"   :db:   is the new way to say white supremacist in trump's aggrieved white man's Amerikkka.... 

 

 

 

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March of white supremacists at University of Virginia ends in skirmishes

 

 

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Chanting “White lives matter!” “You will not replace us!” and “Jews will not replace us!” several hundred white nationalists and white supremacists carrying torches marched in a parade through the University of Virginia campus Friday night.

 

The fast-paced march was made up almost exclusively of men in their 20s and 30s, though there were some who looked to be in their mid-teens.

 

Beginning a little after 9:30 p.m., the march lasted 15 to 20 minutes before ending in skirmishes when the marchers were met by a small group of counter-protesters at the base of a statue of Thomas Jefferson, the university’s founder.

 

A short brawl erupted after at least one of the counter-protesters apparently deployed a chemical spray, which affected the eyes of a dozen or so marchers. It left them floundering and seeking medical assistance.

 

Police officers who had been keeping a wary eye on the march jumped in and broke up the fights. The marchers then disbanded, though several remained and were treated by police and medical personnel for the effects of the mace attack.

 

It was not clear if any one was taken into custody. There were no immediate reports of any arrests.

 

The march came on the eve of the Unite the Right rally, a gathering of groups from around the country whose members have said they are being persecuted for being white and that white history in America is being erased.

 

The Saturday rally is being held at noon at Emancipation Park, formerly Lee Park, home to a statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee that the city of Charlottesville voted to remove earlier this year. The statue remains in the park pending a judge’s ruling expected later this month.

 

Many city leaders and residents have expressed concern about the prospect of violence at Saturday’s event.

 

Estimates have suggested that one thousand or some protesters may take part in the Saturday rally. Expectations were that counter protesters might turn out in larger numbers.

 

Citing the crowds expected and safety issues, the city ordered the rally moved to a larger park away from the city’s downtown. But Jason Kessler, the rally’s organizer, filed a lawsuit against the city that was supported by the Virginia ACLU, saying that his First Amendment rights would be violated by moving the rally. On Friday, a federal judge ruled that the rally should remain at Emancipation Park.

 

Saturday’s rally marks the second time in six weeks that Charlottesville has faced a protest from white supremacist groups for its decision to remove the statue. On July 8, about three dozen members of a regional Ku Klux Klan group protested in the city.

 

The torchlight parade drew sharp condemnations from Charlottesville Mayor Mike Signer and U-Va. President Teresa Sullivan.

 

Sullivan described herself as “deeply saddened and disturbed by the hateful behavior”shown by the marchers.

 

Signer said he was “beyond disgusted by this unsanctioned and despicable display of visual intimidation on a college campus.” He called the chanting procession a “cowardly parade of hatred, bigotry, racism, and intolerance.”



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Posted 12 August 2017 - 10:33 AM

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The kids are alt-right: Your guide to the new crop of white nationalists

 

 

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First the Loyal White Knights of the KKK July 8 and now the Unite the Right rally August 12. Charlottesville has become quite the magnet for white nationalists since City Council voted in April to remove a statue of General Robert E. Lee and rename two Confederate general-monikered parks. Oh, and the mayor declared the city the capital of the resistance.

 

But how does the alt-right differ from the KKK?

 

We went to the Daily Stormer, the neo-Nazi website where Andrew Anglin published a handy guide to the alt-right and the new white nationalists.

 

The core concept is that “whites are undergoing an extermination, via mass immigration into white countries which was enabled by a corrosive liberal ideology of white self-hatred, and that the Jews are at the center of this agenda,” writes Anglin.

 

So, like the Klan, the alt-white nationalists are still racist, dreaming of deporting all people of color, still anti-Semitic and anti-nonwhite immigrant, still homophobic and still loathe feminists and liberals. But this new breed is young and spends a lot of time hanging out online.

 

Trolling is a popular activity, as are making memes and doing things for the lulz, because there’s “a spirit of fun,” according to Anglin.

 

“The mob is the movement,” he writes. This hive mentality is buzzing in dark corners of the internet like Reddit and 4chan, where “the rehabilitation of Adolf Hitler and the [National Socialist German Workers’ Party] largely took place,” according to Anglin.

 

Here’s who’s on the bill to speak at homegrown whites-righter Jason Kessler’s August 12 march on Charlottesville (which the city announced Monday it’s moving to McIntire Park), where he gives himself third billing in the all-star, alt-right lineup. 

 

 

By Lisa Provence and Samantha Baars

 

 

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Richard Spencer

 

Claim to fame: President of the National Policy Institute and Washington Summit Publishers, who coined the term “alt-right” and calls for a “peaceful ethnic cleansing”

 

Hates most: Any color except white

 

Major press moments: Spencer was punched in the face in the middle of an on-camera interview during the Women’s March and also had his Alexandria, Virginia, gym membership terminated for being the cause of a scene in which a woman called him a Nazi.

 

Local ties: The 2001 UVA grad inspired fellow alums to form Hoos Against Richard Spencer to raise money for refugee resettlement org International Rescue Committee.

 

Slogan: “We will not be replaced.”

 

Quote: “Hail Trump, hail our people, hail victory!”

 

Signature move: Nazi salute

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Mike Enoch

Real name: Mike Peinovich

 

Claim to fame: Founder of the alt-right media hub The Right Stuff and podcast “The Daily Shoah,” and one of the first to use the term “cuckservative”

 

Major press moments: He was doxxed by leftists who revealed his marriage to a Jewish woman in January. Richard Spencer and former KKK leader David Duke stood by him as he suffered major backlash from his party and “Daily Shoah” co-host “Bulbasaur,” who allegedly tweeted that Peinovich belonged in a gas chamber before deleting his account. It appears from online reports that Peinovich and his wife have cut ties.

 

Biggest threat to white America: Immigration

 

Banned from: Australia, where politicians have argued that he should not be allowed in their country.

 

Reason for attending Unite the Right: “Why not?”

 

 

 

 

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Jason Kessler

 

Claim to fame: Exposed African-American Vice-Mayor Wes Bellamy’s years-old racist and misogynistic tweets and attempted to remove him from office, which launched Kessler into alt-white firmament.

 

Organization: Unity and Security in America

 

Rap sheet: Convicted of assault for slugging Jay Taylor in January on the Downtown Mall while collecting remove-Bellamy-from-office-petition signatures and is on probation; filed a counterclaim against Taylor that the prosecutor said video evidence did not support; and is currently facing disorderly conduct charges from the counterprotest to the May 13 tiki-torch rally with Spencer.

 

Best video moment: Kessler does a cereal beat-in, part of the initiation for the alt-lite Proud Boys (who insist they’re not white supremacists) in which he affirms he’s a “proud western chauvinist” and is then pummeled until he can list five breakfast cereals.

 

Banned from: Champion Brewery, Miller’s, Cinema Taco…

 

Best press moment: Kessler calls himself a journalist and covers the Spencer-led rally for the Daily Caller without informing the website he was also a speaker at the pre-torch festivities.

 

Quote: “Lincoln was a traitor. The entire country would be better off if the South had won the Civil War,” says Kessler at the June 25 alt-right rally in Washington, D.C.

 

Worst fear: White genocide

 

UVA grad: Oh yeah

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Baked Alaska

Real name: Tim “Treadstone” Gionet

 

Claim to fame: Former BuzzFeed personality and Black Lives Matter champion turned alt-right internet troll

 

Hates most: Political correctness

 

Banned from: GoFundMe for fundraising his trip to Charlottesville for Unite the Right

 

Major press moments: An alleged disinvitation to the alt-right’s DeploraBall to celebrate the president’s inauguration, for—believe it or not—bringing too much bad PR to the movement’s alt-lite sector, which disapproved of Gionet’s Nazi salutes and anti-Semitic blasts on Twitter, according to Mashable. Though he missed the ball, he eventually got back in the party’s good graces by deleting his offensive tweets and saying he misspoke.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Augustus Invictus

Birth name: Austin Gillespie (legally changed to Augustus Invictus)

 

Claim to fame: Publisher of The Revolutionary Conservative, Republican politician and former candidate for the Libertarian nomination for the Florida Senate in 2016, member of the Fraternal Order of the Alt-Knights, a “military wing” of the Proud Boys and the sergeant at arms for white supremacist group the Florida American Guard

 

Major press moment: Adrian Wyllie, former chair of the Libertarian Party of Florida, resigned from his position in response to Invictus’ campaign, calling him a “violent fascist and neo-Nazi,” and a champion of eugenics who “sadistically dismember[ed] a goat in a ritualistic sacrifice,” according to Politico. Invictus said he did sacrifice the animal and drink its blood during a pagan ritual in 2013, but he denies supporting eugenics.

 

Quoted: From a letter he wrote in 2013 cited on multiple alt-right websites: “I have prophesied for years that I was born for a Great War; that if I did not witness the coming of the Second American Civil War I would begin it myself. Mark well: That day is fast coming upon you. On the New Moon of May, I shall disappear into the Wilderness. I will return bearing Revolution, or I will not return at all.”


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Posted 12 August 2017 - 11:31 AM

Anyone heard from the POTUS yet?    :unknw:

 

 

 

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 11:34 AM

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 03:14 PM

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Donald Trump Blames ‘Many Sides’ For White Supremacist Clashes In Charlottesville
Trump’s responses to incidents of violence have varied since he took office.
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President Donald Trump responded to violence that erupted this weekend as white supremacists and a fringe group clashed in Charlottesville, Virginia.

 

He refused to single out the activity of white supremacists, however, arguing that there was blame to go around on “many sides.”

 

“We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides ― on many sides. It’s been going on for a long time in our country, not Donald Trump, not Barack Obama, it’s been going on for a long, long time,” Trump said at a ceremony for the signing of a bill to reform the Veterans Affairs health care system.

 

“It has no place in America,” he assed. “What is vital now is a swift restoration of law and order and the protection of innocent lives.”

 

Trump went on to emphasize that he loves “all the people of our country,” and called for Americans of different races and backgrounds to remember their shared Americanness.

 

Trump’s initial statement didn’t mention Charlottesville by name or directly address any groups demonstrating there.

“We wanna get the situation straightened out in Charlottesville and we want to study it. We want to see what we’re doing wrong as a country where things like this can happen.

 

 

We ALL must be united & condemn all that hate stands for. There is no place for this kind of violence in America. Lets come together as one!

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He followed up that tweet with another one 41 minutes later, finally mentioning Charlottesville by name:

 

Am in Bedminster for meetings & press conference on V.A. & all that we have done, and are doing, to make it better-but Charlottesville sad!

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David Duke, a white nationalist and supporter of Trump, criticized the president’s initial statement, arguing “it was White Americans who put you in the presidency.”

 

I would recommend you take a good look in the mirror & remember it was White Americans who put you in the presidency, not radical leftists. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/896420822780444672 

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Duke said Saturday the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville is in line with Trump’s “promises.”

 

“We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump,“Duke said. “That’s what we believed in. That’s why we voted for Donald Trump, because he said he’s going to take our country back.”

 

Charlottesville Mayor Mike Signer thanked Trump for his statement:

 

 

@realDonaldTrump, thanks, at long last, for condemning hate in speech and action. Our work here is just beginning. Yours is too.

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Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D) declared a state of emergency Saturday as fist fights broke out in streets, objects were thrown and reporters were covered in raw sewage. The White House said it has been in contact with McAuliffe’s office, and Tom Bossert, Trump’s homeland security adviser, has had contact with local authorities.

 

First lady Melania Trump issued a statement Saturday condemning the violence, becoming the first White House official to react to the events in Charlottesville:

 

Our country encourages freedom of speech, but let's communicate w/o hate in our hearts. No good comes from violence. #Charlottesville

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Trump’s responses to incidents of violence have varied since he took office.

 

He immediately condemned a June attack in London, calling it “horrific” while criticizing London Mayor Sadiq Khan and calling for implementation of his proposed travel banagainst citizens from several majority-Muslim countries. In February, he called anti-Semitic incidents in the United States “horrible” and “painful.”

 

But his response to other attacks has been delayed or non-existent.

 

After several days, Trump tweeted from the @POTUS account ― an official White House account, not the personal one he most often uses ― to recognize victims of a knife attack in Portland for “standing up to hate and intolerance” for standing up to a man yelling slurs and hate speech. Trump never issued a response to an attack on a mosque in Minnesota earlier this month.

 

The violence in Charlottesville erupted in the middle of Trump’s 17-day “working vacation” at the Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey. Trump has remained active on Twitter throughout his vacation, tweeting criticisms at several lawmakers, making comments on the situation with North Korea and retweeting stories from Fox News.

 


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Posted 12 August 2017 - 03:42 PM

You stupid mutherfuckers need to stop watching the news. Its fucking up your minds with gibberish. Go outside, look around, go to town, the beach, a bar, anywhere. Everything is alright. It only in the news that ebola, nuclear war, racists, Moslems, etc will get you. EVERYTHING IS ALRIGHT, YOU ARE SAFE. I'm Walkertee. You can trust me.


  
 
 

 

 


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Posted 12 August 2017 - 03:50 PM

The next Civil War that was started by Obama is gathering momentum. LDL is only flaming the fire right here with his non stop race baiting socialists tantrums.

 

Those that start the shit are always the most surprised to see it get carried away and then claim that they are peace lovers. Libtards do this daily.

 



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Posted 12 August 2017 - 03:55 PM

Yeah, racism started with Barack Obama...  rolleyes

 

 

These protestors are self-admitted trump supporters who believe the POTUS holds the same idology as them 



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Posted 12 August 2017 - 03:57 PM

You stupid mutherfuckers need to stop watching the news. Its fucking up your minds with gibberish. Go outside, look around, go to town, the beach, a bar, anywhere. Everything is alright. It only in the news that ebola, nuclear war, racists, Moslems, etc will get you. EVERYTHING IS ALRIGHT, YOU ARE SAFE. I'm Walkertee. You can trust me.

 

 



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Posted 12 August 2017 - 04:54 PM

It's like with Putin, Trump will mock everyone from movie actresses to the leaders of his own party but can't say a cross word about Putin, even after being mocked by Medvedev, Putin's proxy, for being impotent in the face of Congressional sanctions. Has anyone else has ever gotten away without a Trumpian twitter lashing after calling him weak and impotent?

 

And he can't condemn the white nationalists because he has them in the White House (Bannon, Gorka, Miller and who knows who else) and is enacting their agenda after the most racist campaign we've seen since George Wallace: punishing minorities, curbing their voting rights, enacting a brutal deportation policy, floating a make America white again immigration policy. No wonder David Duke and his ilk feel unleashed and empowered, he's their wet dream of a president. 

 

After that campaign and 6 months of feeding red meat to his base and giving the back of his hand to everyone else, he's pretty damn late trying to speak for unity and love among all Americans.


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Posted 12 August 2017 - 04:57 PM

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 05:18 PM

False equivalency...A state structured & organized on hate is not the same as an individual's bias....



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Posted 12 August 2017 - 05:45 PM

I am against everything the white and nationalist stand for, but they do have a right to express their opinion in a peaceful manner. From what I saw in the news footage, even the news footage shop and shown by the liberal media, the extreme left anti white nationalist protesters got in their face and incited the violence.

People need just to chill out, let an opposing Viewpoint, even one that is as disgusting as theirs, State their case and go home. It does not have to resort to getting in your face and fisticuffs.


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Posted 12 August 2017 - 06:00 PM

Yes....they incited them to use a car as a weapon and drive over them....

 

Yep...that's exactly what happened   :bad:

 

 

I wonder if this happened at a BLM event & Obama was in office would we hear the same excuses for the activist group's behavior?

 

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 08:11 PM

It wasn't surprising today that trump failed to comdemn by name the alt-right, white nationalists like he's done wih senators, judges, parents of dead servicemen, and others, it was just a reminder of who he is.

And only a fucking sociopath would tout his good economic numbers when speaking about today's tragedy, as trump did.


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Posted 12 August 2017 - 08:58 PM

I'm missing the racist angle here. I see one crazy white group fighting another crazy white group and then some crazy white guy plowing down some crazy white people.

It's no more Trump's fault that white racists support him than it is Obama or Hillary's fault that black racists supported them.

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 09:50 PM

Blasta, perfectly stated.

Antifa is as bad as the AltRight groups. They're both extremists, they both use violence and hate as their main messages.


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Posted 12 August 2017 - 10:01 PM

If I'm not mistaken, according to a guy I follow on Facebook that lives there and was recording the event, said that the white supremacists targeted the opposition (peaceful protesters of the white supremacists "March").

Yet, the media was quick to name BLM marches as riots and protests. Sigh, too bad that the most racists are the most blythe about it. Of course,it doesn't affect THEIR everyday life. They are not the ones living in disparaged neighborhoods who in turn have no funding for education and programs to help people get out of poverty. So much "white priveledge".... God forbid someone calls them out for it though.
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Posted 12 August 2017 - 10:10 PM

Here is the video, note the little black girl on the roof of the car.

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 10:21 PM

It's like with Putin, Trump will mock everyone from movie actresses to the leaders of his own party but can't say a cross word about Putin, even after being mocked by Medvedev, Putin's proxy, for being impotent in the face of Congressional sanctions. Has anyone else has ever gotten away without a Trumpian twitter lashing after calling him weak and impotent?

And he can't condemn the white nationalists because he has them in the White House (Bannon, Gorka, Miller and who knows who else) and is enacting their agenda after the most racist campaign we've seen since George Wallace: punishing minorities, curbing their voting rights, enacting a brutal deportation policy, floating a make America white again immigration policy. No wonder David Duke and his ilk feel unleashed and empowered, he's their wet dream of a president.

After that campaign and 6 months of feeding red meat to his base and giving the back of his hand to everyone else, he's pretty damn late trying to speak for unity and love among all Americans.


I agree. Trump is a puppet though. People are giving him way too much power. The real powers that be want America in this very position.

That's what they do in third world countries - cause separation and strife, then a president comes in to "save them from themselves" but of course all the while they are profiting from the masses.

The poor pay for their wars with blood, sweat and tears. Very sad indeed.... But also a good eye opener for us. We are very vulnerable to mass mind control. Just look at how the media spins and hypes up these type of events. All for the almighty dollar. Fear mongering.

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 10:22 PM

The next Civil War that was started by Obama is gathering momentum. LDL is only flaming the fire right here with his non stop race baiting socialists tantrums.

 

Those that start the shit are always the most surprised to see it get carried away and then claim that they are peace lovers. Libtards do this daily.

Nice to know that you support: Nazis, the KKK and white supremacists and them murdering anyone who are not like them. Thank you for coming clean. :hi:

 

 

I'm missing the racist angle here. I see one crazy white group fighting another crazy white group and then some crazy white guy plowing down some crazy white people.

It's no more Trump's fault that white racists support him than it is Obama or Hillary's fault that black racists supported them.

 
 

 

David Duke: Charlottesville protests about ‘fulfilling promises of Donald Trump’

 

 

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2. "It happened, but it's not a big deal." 
3. "OK it might be a big deal, but it isn't illegal." 
4. "OK it's illegal, but Hillary and Obama something something, so it's OK." 
5. "Get over it, libturd, you're just a sore loser."


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Posted 12 August 2017 - 10:49 PM

If I'm not mistaken, according to a guy I follow on Facebook that lives there and was recording the event, said that the white supremacists targeted the opposition (peaceful protesters of the white supremacists "March").

Yet, the media was quick to name BLM marches as riots and protests. Sigh, too bad that the most racists are the most blythe about it. Of course,it doesn't affect THEIR everyday life. They are not the ones living in disparaged neighborhoods who in turn have no funding for education and programs to help people get out of poverty. So much "white priveledge".... God forbid someone calls them out for it though.
Remember, they let us live so we should be grateful.


The KKK has been responsible for thousands of murders in the 20th century. The white supremacist site stormfront has hundreds of users that have comitted murders and thats in the US only. Yet people equate BLM w them as if it was the same thing.
Lets keep it local. Here in Florida (the State that was #1 in lynchings) counties over sentence blacks 2, 3, 4 times more.
Flagler County (North of Daytona) blacks get 700% more time (yes 700%) than whites for comitting the same offense and having the same record. Not me saying, no spin, the facts.
But God forbid they say something or they complain. Blacks should be soooooo grateful and better yet, in the minds of the alt right winger they have it better than whites!!!!! since that welfare that doesnt get to 1% of our GDP is the root of all problems.

The moment this scum arrives in S.Florida I'll be in the frontlines.
And regarding Antifa. Antifa has been around for more than 70 yrs. People here may have never heard of them but they show up when fascism shows up.
Its mostly kids and youth.
In S. America (continent that has suffered right wing dictatorships) they appeared when young nazis started to pop up. And Im proud to have been part of that fight when I was pretty much a child.

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 07:38 AM

It is laughable that you try to discuss right wing dictatorships. Would you like to list them? Then I will list five leftist dictatorships for every right wing one - if you can truly find one. I would love to hear what regimes you deem to be fascist - now or in the recent past.

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 07:46 AM

That's the fantasy land that the liberals live in.

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One of the first things one thinks of regarding South American countries is leftist regimes. Trying to make a point with a right wing regime - if one exists, is quite preposterous and not a good example for any point you are trying to make.

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 08:26 AM

Left or right, it's different sides of the same token. Can't you see that?? It's pointless. None of these extremists groups work in the long run. So shouldn't we be trying to find a middle ground instead of trying to hold onto outdated, fear based, violent ways of the past? Look at countries like Canada, the Netherlands-even though they pay high taxes, they aren't struggling with basic issues like in America.

There is no reason for poverty in America-yet many white, black, Latin groups are living in poverty. Those same alt right wingers live in squalor. Why? They are born in America, access to schools, they speak English, and they are white. They have a huge edge over the non English speaking immigrants. Yet, they don't thrive because they don't want to adapt. Nothing is stagnant, things change - its inevitable.
These people (white and black) sit around smoking cigarettes, drinking alcohol, doing drugs then angry that others are doing better. Instead of fixing THEIR own issues, they would rather teach hate and infringe on others freedom.

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 08:57 AM

It is laughable that you try to discuss right wing dictatorships. Would you like to list them? Then I will list five leftist dictatorships for every right wing one - if you can truly find one. I would love to hear what regimes you deem to be fascist - now or in the recent past.

 

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Why is no one surprised that you wingnut racists defend the Nazi KKK white supremacists and your queen thanks you.  

 

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2. "It happened, but it's not a big deal." 
3. "OK it might be a big deal, but it isn't illegal." 
4. "OK it's illegal, but Hillary and Obama something something, so it's OK." 
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Posted 13 August 2017 - 09:18 AM

I knew that the class clown would have to chime in at some point.
RD, you realize that you make retards look smart, don't you?


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Posted 13 August 2017 - 09:41 AM

If a citizen of the United States, decides to join and support " white supremacist groups ", that is their choice...

People like hohum, blasta, bartman and others on this Board, are probably not Nazis, or Klansmen, or dangerous right wing militants...

( in truth, over the years, at both GT's and their postings, they are not people anyone would fear... Big mouth bullies, nothing more...)


As for me, I have no problem with denying any Citizen who is a member of the Nazis or KKK or other right wing, or Communists Group, their Constitutional Rights...

That's just me...

Oh yea, yesterday a large number of the RightWing Supremacists came to a susposed peaceful protest, armed for battle...

Open season, on the ultra right militants, would be a enjoyable time...


Oh yea... The big talkers on this Board are so funny...
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Posted 13 August 2017 - 10:11 AM

yes, lets get the Klan, skinheads, Nazis and other white crazies into a stadium and let them do battle man on man with the Black Panthers, The Black Uhuru, LDL, and the Nation of Islam. Fight to the finish and jail for the rest.

 

That is one way to clean up some of the nonsense that has been stirred up by Obama. I have never see the nation so polarized.

 

BTW: more people die in the hoods of Chicago in a month than anywhere else, thugs filled the cops in Dallas, any dumb ass white bikers killed each other in Waco. Crazy criminals are just that, but if a black person gets hurt or scorned look out, everybody is a racist exept them.  With the black popular shrinking into irrelevance, rantings and race baiting from the black community is only going to grow. 

 

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 10:50 AM

yes, lets get the Klan, skinheads, Nazis and other white crazies into a stadium and let them do battle man on man with the Black Panthers, The Black Uhuru, LDL, and the Nation of Islam. Fight to the finish and jail for the rest.

 

That is one way to clean up some of the nonsense that has been stirred up by Obama. I have never see the nation so polarized.

 

BTW: more people die in the hoods of Chicago in a month than anywhere else, thugs filled the cops in Dallas, any dumb ass white bikers killed each other in Waco. Crazy criminals are just that, but if a black person gets hurt or scorned look out, everybody is a racist exept them.  With the black popular shrinking into irrelevance, rantings and race baiting from the black community is only going to grow. 

 

Blacks think they are a minority now, just watch the next ten years.

 

 

:clapping: FANTASTIC POST!

 

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 11:23 AM

yes, lets get the Klan, skinheads, Nazis and other white crazies into a stadium and let them do battle man on man with the Black Panthers, The Black Uhuru, LDL, and the Nation of Islam. Fight to the finish and jail for the rest.

 

That is one way to clean up some of the nonsense that has been stirred up by Obama. I have never see the nation so polarized.

 

BTW: more people die in the hoods of Chicago in a month than anywhere else, thugs filled the cops in Dallas, any dumb ass white bikers killed each other in Waco. Crazy criminals are just that, but if a black person gets hurt or scorned look out, everybody is a racist exept them.  With the black popular shrinking into irrelevance, rantings and race baiting from the black community is only going to grow. 

 

Blacks think they are a minority now, just watch the next ten years.

 

 

Blacks will become MORE of a minority in the next 10 years?

How?  You planning on a trump genocide program? 

 

You're an angry little white boy aren't ya?   :LMAO:   

 

You can keep on being angry at everyone but the white supremacists... rolleyes

 

But we do check people's statements here....and the one highlighted in red is 100% FALSE

(along with a lot of other stuff)   :hi:

 

 

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 11:33 AM

One of the first things one thinks of regarding South American countries is leftist regimes. Trying to make a point with a right wing regime - if one exists, is quite preposterous and not a good example for any point you are trying to make.


People think of Latin America as left wing dictatorships because of Fidel Castro but the regimes have been overwhelmly right wing.
Chile had Pinochet, Argentina had the even more murderous Videla, Galtieri as well. Perus dictatorships were right wing. Paraguay had Stroessner (another ACTUAL fascist). Brazil authoritarian regimes decades ago were right wing. They made sure most of their populations stayed in the most absolute poverty while the top got richer and richer.
In Central America it was the same thing. The "Banana Republic" name was given to Honduras way back in the day for being a dictatorship in which the top sold everything off while the rest had nothing. Nicaragua had Somoza for how many yrs?
Guatemala was specially terrible. Look it up.
In El Salvador the Reagan backed civil war caused 10 times more casualities than all the casualities of the Castro Regime that lasted almost 60 yrs.
Castro was undoubtedly a dictator and Cuba is a dictatorship but they have been very careful not to kill people. Sure an old Cuban will tell you otherwise but talk to someone that lived there until not too long.
Remember that the (again) right wing dictatorship of Batista was a lot worse than Castro's. What happened was that Castro took away the property of people with money. Which is bad. But for some is way worse than killing the poor.


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Posted 13 August 2017 - 11:43 AM

:clapping: FANTASTIC POST!

 

ps, "You can't fight physics" ...  :angel:

 

 

 

 

 

I pity you...

 

 

This from the Miami Herald opinion page...

 

 

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Why did Charlottesville carnage happen? Because we lie to ourselves

 

 

BY LEONARD PITTS, JR.

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To my white fellow citizens:

 

I invite you to consider this scene from Saturday’s riot in Charlottesville. As reported by The Washington Post, a group of counter protesters assembled at a rally of white supremacists in that Virginia college town and took up a chant, “No Trump! No KKK! No fascist USA!”

 

To which one of the white supremacists yelled back, “Too late, f------!”

 

 

At this writing, we are still sorting out all that happened Saturday at and around the University of Virginia. First reports paint a frightening picture: Nazis, Klansmen and other benighted citizens of the extreme right — most said to be white men in their 20s and 30s — shouting the usual expressions of hate; brawls breaking out between the protesters and counter protesters; police, according to some witnesses, standing by. Those early reports also tell us that a car was driven through a crowd of counter protesters, with the result that over a dozen people were injured, at least one of them fatally.

 

 

While it is too soon to know much about this with certainty, this much is clear. What happened Saturday in Virginia is the bitter and inevitable fruit of our habit of intellectual dishonesty where race is concerned.

 

The first, such, of course, lay in writing slavery and racial inferiority into a constitution that supposedly enshrined the equality of all people before the law. From that day until this one, we have never quite weaned ourselves of lying to ourselves where race is concerned. Indeed, as the moral authority of the Civil Rights Movement recedes deeper into memory, as cable news and social media offer new platforms and broad reach to voices of acrimony and hate and as facts become “facts” become untruths become lies and too few of us seem to notice or care, the intellectual dishonesty surrounding race has become starker, more brazen and more creative than we have seen in years.

 

Like when people say that talking about racism is racism.

 

Or when they babble pious inanities like “racism goes both ways” and “all lives matter.”

 

Nor have news media always brought clarity. It was pundits, after all, who kept ascribing Donald Trump’s rise to “economic anxiety” even as his followers were yelling racist, homophobic and anti-Semitic slurs with unbridled glee. And leave us not forget how media have allowed the folks who brought such chaos to Charlottesville to brand themselves under a banal-sounding new euphemism — the “alt-right” — as if they were not the same bunch of mouth-breathing, lowlife racists they always were.

 

Where race is concerned, intellectual honesty, the willingness to see and say what is right in front of us, has long been in short supply. And too many of you — not all, no, but far too many — readily embrace these implicit lies because you fear the places to which the truth will push you. But the racial riot and terrorism that just visited Charlottesville and the emboldened brazenness of the white supremacist movement now that one of their own has taken the White House, suggest that you no longer have the luxury of avoidance, at least not if the future of this country matters to you.

 

I am not unmindful of the young white students who protested the hate that arrived on their campus Saturday. For that matter, I am not unmindful of the white people who marched through Charleston after the church massacre there. I remember James Zwerg, who had his face kicked in, and Viola Liuozzo and Elijah Lovejoy, who were shot to death for African-American freedom.

 

But I am likewise not unmindful that too many of you have watched with complicit silence and quiet terror of demographic change as voting rights were abridged, murderous policemen went free, Fox “News” turned your resentment into ratings and politicians turned your rancor into power.

 

The result of which erupted Saturday for all the world to see. Meaning not just the violence and not just the terrorism, but the sense of victory and vindication embodied in the smug rejoinder of a white supremacist to a group of people who had come to chant in support of something higher than bigotry and rage.

 

“Too late f------!”

 

Maybe he’s right. Maybe it is.

 

That’s a decision you’ll have to make.


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Posted 13 August 2017 - 12:20 PM

:clapping: FANTASTIC POST!

ps, "You can't fight physics" ... :angel:

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 12:34 PM

I knew that the class clown would have to chime in at some point.
RD, you realize that you make retards look smart, don't you?

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2. "It happened, but it's not a big deal." 
3. "OK it might be a big deal, but it isn't illegal." 
4. "OK it's illegal, but Hillary and Obama something something, so it's OK." 
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Posted 13 August 2017 - 12:43 PM

:clapping: FANTASTIC POST!

 

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2. "It happened, but it's not a big deal." 
3. "OK it might be a big deal, but it isn't illegal." 
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Posted 13 August 2017 - 12:46 PM

But we do check people's statements here....and the one highlighted in red is 100% FALSE
(along with a lot of other stuff)

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Might want to think things thru for yourself instead of mindless cut/paste. And stay with current events of the last year or 2.

Using a murder 'rate' is deceiving. Since that takes into account a very large metropolitan area and uses an average, not total number of murders. Since most cities have only a section/population area that the majority of the murders happen, using a large multi million total city population number to average in the 'rate' is deceiving. 

 

Chicago in 2016 had the highest total murders 762 of anywhere in the USA. Thats a total number, not a 'rate/average using a massive total Chicago city population 2.8 million, to buffer the real south side problem.

 

Chicago had
4,331 shooting victims with 762 murders in 2016, mostly all on the south side of Chicago. If using just the population of the south side of Chicago 750,000, for the murder 'rate' it would be by far the highest 'rate' in the USA. 

 

Just another case of MSM twisting the facts and statistics to their agenda.

Make no mistake, Chicago has the most murders/shootings of any city in the USA. And if you just use the population of the district where most of them occur, the murder rate is astronomical.


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Posted 13 August 2017 - 01:31 PM

So using average rates is deceiving....OK   :unknw:   I guess you've decided that for everyone including the mathematicians & scientists of the world

 

 

Do you geographically map the murders of any other cities for comparison?

Do you carve out NYC to just be the Bronx or  Brooklyn?  Is Los Angeles only Compton?

 

It seems to me that ignoring the size of the population is easily as deceiving as standardizing the data as murder rates per capita

 

And then on top of that you make some statements without any evidence at all

 

 

Who knows....maybe if you carve up other cities you might not find what you claim

But I guess you won't carve up any other cities for comparison....  rolleyes



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Posted 13 August 2017 - 04:20 PM

And regarding Antifa. Antifa has been around for more than 70 yrs. People here may have never heard of them but they show up when fascism shows up.
Its mostly kids and youth.
 

 

Antifa?  The group that uses fascist tactics like suppressing differing opinions and destroy property while rioting at college campuses?

 

A self contained oxymoron from the morons on the left.



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Posted 13 August 2017 - 05:12 PM

As for me, I have no problem with denying any Citizen who is a member of the Nazis or KKK or other right wing, or Communists Group, their Constitutional Rights...
 

 

So you are proposing stripping the Constitutional rights away from American citizens who exercise their Constitution right?

 

Interesting concept, even for you.
 



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Posted 13 August 2017 - 05:25 PM

I have to admit, antifa sounds a whole lot better than anti-fascist, that's for sure, especially if you're trying to appear human from the trump side. I guess not everyone on the trump side is an idiot.

 

More than a few posts in this thread should make any decent person sick to their stomach.



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Posted 13 August 2017 - 06:03 PM

If you disagree on one point with the colored commie, he'll paint you as a Nazi Racist Whitey Misogynist Homophobe Islamophobe AntiSemite.

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 06:49 PM

If you disagree on one point with the colored commie, he'll paint you as a Nazi Racist Whitey Misogynist Homophobe Islamophobe AntiSemite.

 

 

Unfortunately, I have to agree.  :Sigh:

 

He MUST have the "last word" at all times too ...

I just walk away from it often as ... it gets monotonous.  :Straight Face:

 

Then, to make his "argument" ....

he often pastes "opinion articles" (like in THIS thread, post # 35) as if they hold so much weight  :Rolling Eyes: 

 

IMHO ...

he and RD ARE the "bullies" of this forum. 

 

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ps, The above is JUST MY opinion based on my observations.

I will say in advance, IF I choose to NOT REPLY FURTHER perhaps, just perhaps 

it's because, I don't feel the need to REPEAT IT OR justify it.  :angel:

 

 

​pps, SOMETIMES

(depending on the caliber of the one often attempting to start an argument with me

and/or their "argument" itself),

"the last word" is actually an embarrassing thing to have. 


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Posted 13 August 2017 - 07:55 PM

May we all live long enough to piss on trump's grave.

 

 
favkzs.jpg Father: Heather Heyer was a champion for others

By Steve Almasy and Sheena Jones, CNN

 

Updated 6:53 PM ET, Sun August 13, 2017

Mark Heyer said he didn't always agree with his daughter's viewpoints.

But he always admired that she she stood up for what she believed in.
"She died trying to bring about that purpose," he told CNN on Sunday, the day after he was told his 32-year-old daughter had been run down on a Charlottesville, Virginia, street.
Heather Heyer stood up for people who needed help, her dad said. She worked as a paralegal for a Charlottesville law firm, assisting clients through the bankruptcy filing process.
Her father said she was passionate about helping others.
She also had some strong convictions.
"She was always passionate about the beliefs she held, she had a bigger backbone than I did," he said.
Mark Heyer said the only way to get through this tough time is to remember God teaches us to forgive.
"We need to start with forgiveness and stop all of the hate," he said.
The Miller Law Group said in its online bio of Heather that she had a lot of knowledge and experience in the bankruptcy field.
Larry Miller, the president of the firm, told the Daily Beast that Heather had a big heart.
"She'd hold their hand and make sure they would get the stuff in timely, that way we wouldn't have any issues," Miller told the Daily Beast. "She was really good at that."
Heyer had just celebrated her five-year anniversary at her job.
Police have said Heyer was crossing the street Saturday when a car plowed into a group of counterprotesters. Nineteen others were hurt.
A 20-year-old man from Ohio is being held and could face a second-degree murder charge.
Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe praised Heyer.
"She was doing what she loved," McAuliffe said. "She was fighting for democracy, (for) free speech, to stop hatred and bigotry."

 

 

 

 

 



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Posted 13 August 2017 - 09:05 PM

Why is he just being charged with murder ? This seems like an act  of terror 


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Posted 13 August 2017 - 10:03 PM

Yes blasta... " It " is an unrealistic possibility...

Yet... I hate the Nazies and Klansmen so much...

I care little, if they could even be breathing...





Different parts of my family, have been destroyed, by these vile groups...

Yup... It's hate... Yet, It's righteous hate...

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 11:44 PM

This nonsense has no end in sight.

 



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Posted 14 August 2017 - 01:07 AM

It is laughable that you try to discuss right wing dictatorships. Would you like to list them? Then I will list five leftist dictatorships for every right wing one - if you can truly find one. I would love to hear what regimes you deem to be fascist - now or in the recent past.

Again you show how uninformed or willfully stupid you are by making such a ridicules statement! Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels didn't write their "Communist Manifesto" until 1848, and the first Communist state wasn't established until the Russian Revolution of 1917. So by very definition there were no left-wing Socialist dictatorships in the history of the world prior to 1917. Conversely, that means every despotic ruler anywhere in the world, at any time prior to 1917 was a right-wing dictatorship!

 

All three Axis powers in WWII were right-wing fascist dictatorships along with Falange party they installed in Spain under the leadership of Francisco Franco. As was previously mentioned by K101, the vast majority of regimes in Latin America and Basil have right-wing. Additionally, with the exception of Castro's Cuba, every dictatorship in the history of the Caribbean have been right-wing, with most of these strongmen being installed or directly supported by the US.

 

Prior to Castro, the previous two regimes were right-wing dictatorships. Batista, and before him Machado, were corrupt right-wing despots who clung to power through a combination of force of arms and alliances with the US Mafia, approved by our government in DC, which looked the other way because those governments were tremendously profitable for the US corporations doing business there.

 

Haiti was led for decades by the extremely brutal right-wing dictatorship led by the Duvalier family, which was installed by the US by a coup d'état in 1957. Prior to that a series of right-wing military juntas ruled the country whenever they disagreed with the outcome of popular elections, and before that the US invaded and occupied Haiti from 1915-1934 before leaving and installing a puppet right-wing government there.

 

The Dominican Republic is also a country with a long history of right-wing despotic dictatorships dating to its First Republic led by, Pedro Santana, who won the nation's freedom from Haiti until the first peaceful transfer of power in 1978.

 

Learn some history before making such idiotic comments, they make you appear stupid!

 

I'm missing the racist angle here. I see one crazy white group fighting another crazy white group and then some crazy white guy plowing down some crazy white people.

It's no more Trump's fault that white racists support him than it is Obama or Hillary's fault that black racists supported them.

Seriously?!? When you have the leadership of one of these "crazy white groups" openly saying that they are the reason for Trump's victory in "making America Great again," and the fact that Trump refuses to condemn them or their remarks, doesn't acknowledge Jewish suffering during the Holocaust, but freely comments on everything else in the world (except his puppeteer Putin), this argument of a moral equivalency falls flatly on its face. More so, when one logically looks at the histories of these organizations. There has never been a black racist organization that has systematically perpetrated racially inspired violence against whites in this country. This cannot be said about the Klan, White Supremacists, or Neo-Nazis. They all have a long and well documented history of violence against anyone who is a non-white protestant, this is a fact!

 

Blasta, perfectly stated.

Antifa is as bad as the AltRight groups. They're both extremists, they both use violence and hate as their main messages.

Yes, equate those who are are against bigotry, hate and violence with those who march to incite it! A statement like that only makes sense in the parallel universe where Captain Kirk was a despot who took command by assassinating Captain Pike, and the Federation was an Imperial hegemon bent on galactic conquest!

 

As the hero of the right and inspiration of Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater, once famously said, "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" If only today's Republicans would govern by that covenant we would all be in a much better, safer place!

 

yes, lets get the Klan, skinheads, Nazis and other white crazies into a stadium and let them do battle man on man with the Black Panthers, The Black Uhuru, LDL, and the Nation of Islam. Fight to the finish and jail for the rest.

 

That is one way to clean up some of the nonsense that has been stirred up by Obama. I have never see the nation so polarized.

 

BTW: more people die in the hoods of Chicago in a month than anywhere else, thugs filled the cops in Dallas, any dumb ass white bikers killed each other in Waco. Crazy criminals are just that, but if a black person gets hurt or scorned look out, everybody is a racist exept them.  With the black popular shrinking into irrelevance, rantings and race baiting from the black community is only going to grow. 

 

Blacks think they are a minority now, just watch the next ten years.

Wow, how wackjobs feel emboldened to crawl out of the woodwork! That comment has to be one of the most overtly bigoted statements I've ever read on this board! Obama spoke of understanding one another and empathizing with those that have been forgotten in our society, and he did so eloquently. Only someone with a seriously disturbed mind can equate anything he ever said or wrote with inciting violence or division. You sir are indeed a racist, and judging by your spelling and writing skills a poorly educated nearly illiterate one at that!


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 02:36 AM

It is laughable that you try to discuss right wing dictatorships. Would you like to list them? Then I will list five leftist dictatorships for every right wing one - if you can truly find one. I would love to hear what regimes you deem to be fascist - now or in the recent past.

 

You're up Fartman, show us you have something more than fetid hot air. Show us you actually know something.

 

 

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(Ain't she lovely? Lookin for a girlfriend Blabla?)

 

When the nazi flag is held up next to the rebel flag as they marched, as we saw in Charlottesville, any claims of protecting a proud southern heritage goes out the window.

 

They're his people and he's their man. Fred Trump, his most admired dad and true creator of the Trump wealth, has an arrest record in Queens from a KKKLan riot in 1927.

http://www.independe...k-a7891701.html

https://www.vice.com...nt-with-the-kkk

 

 

The popular white supremacist site Daily Stormer called Trump’s remarks “really good,” noting that he “didn’t attack us.” They were also pleased he ignored a question about white supremacists after making his statement.

"Trump comments were good. He didn’t attack us. He just said the nation should come together. Nothing specific against us.He said that we need to study why people are so angry, and implied that there was hate… on both sides!So he implied the antifa are haters.

Some commentators on the white nationalist message board Stormfront also praised Trump, with one noting that the president’s comments could just as easily be read as a criticism of Black Lives Matter.

There was virtually no counter-signaling of us at all.

He said he loves us all.

Also refused to answer a question about White Nationalists supporting him.

No condemnation at all.

When asked to condemn, he just walked out of the room.

Really, really good.

God bless him."

 

 

And he brought them into the White House because they helped them win the office.

 

Where does this come from? Who knows who wrote this text for Trump. But many of Trump’s most important speeches were written by white nationalist aide Stephen Miller, who came from Jeff Sessions’ senate office. Miller literally worked with Alt-Right leader (he coined the phrase) Richard Spencer on racist political activism when he was in college at Duke (Spencer was a grad student at the time). This isn’t some vague guilt by association. He’s one of them
When Gabriel Sherman asked what he identifies as a ‘senior White House official’ why the White House didn’t denounce the Nazis in Charlottesville, he got this: “What about the leftist mob? Just as violent if not more so.” Maybe I’ve missed some other background comments out of the White House. But I haven’t heard anything that approaches that level of venom about the nazis or white supremacists. When the top ideologues at Trump’s White House look at yesterday’s spectacle, they instinctively see the counter-protestors as enemies.

 

Was that official Miller? Who knows? It could have been Bannon or Gorka or frankly a number of others. There are plenty to choose from. That’s the point. This wasn’t resistance to making a conspicuous denunciation or being cute. Those were Trump’s supporters. He recognizes them as supporters, indeed as part of his movement. And he supports them. This is probably largely instinctive on Trump’s part. It’s more ideological and articulate on his aides’ part.

He’s one of them. Let’s stop pretending.  http://talkingpoints...hes-one-of-them

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 06:39 AM

Yup. This thread is one of the worst displays I've seen of ignorance and bigotry. It literally turned my stomach reading it, as I realize you guys (and gal) are not alone. There's millions that unfortunately think like you.

Colored commie? Equating Black Lives Matter with white supremacy and neo nazis?? Wow! Scary shit, even from you guys. The BLM movement that has you all wound up was created after the senseless and outrageous killings of unarmed black men all over this nation by Law Enforcement. It's in no way a black supremacy movement, or even a hate group. There's anger and outrage, but it's deserved. There are a small amount of extremists as there are with any group.

My father passed away in Pompano a few months ago at 93. He survived the Holocaust, but lost many close relatives. He was a beautiful and passionate man. Many of his passions have influenced me. His passion for all nature and gardening. Also his passionate hatred of all wars as well as any form of bigotry.

I refuse to engage in back and forth discussions with a lot of you, as you seem so steeped in your ignorance. I do sincerely feel sorry for you, and pray for a glimmer of light to enter your lives some day.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 06:59 AM

I have family that were killed by the Nazi's, my dad went to Lithuania do restore their graves.

I do NOT condone Nazism HOWEVER .... to me, it's a very scary thing IN America to tell certain groups 

(whether I hate them or not) of American citizens that THEY are not allowed to peacefully protest.

 

What about, "What do we want? Dead cops! When do we want them? ...."

That was your "righteous" BLM movement and ALTHOUGH I consider Al Sharpton to be "lunatic fringe" ....

HE WAS a guest of Obama's. Did ANY of you here, on the left get angry with Obama when the ATROCITIES

associated with that chant happened

 

ATBlunt, I happen to think you're a nice guy, you're entitled to your opinion BUT ....

what IF someone said,

"My little girl was raped, beaten and murdered by a group of black men, I HATE them and 

would love to see them NOT ALLOWED to protest anything."? What would you say to that?

 

It is MY belief as well that it is the LEFT that PAYS PEOPLE to be troublesome "activists"

and that goes back DECADES. 

 

 

 

 


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 07:35 AM

Tiburon , once again you fail reading comprehension and simply get facts wrong.   I asked for recent examples of fascism in south america.  Instead I get a history lesson from you- thats not what I asked or made reference to.    You made reference to recent fascism in south america, I simply asked for current examples.   It is generally known that several regimes in south and central america are left wing, not fascist.  Maybe some simple reading on the definition of socialism and fascism in south america would learn you something before you flap your gums.  Here are some simple links to wikipedia to help you since you obviously need it:

 

https://en.wikipedia...he_21st_century

 

https://en.wikipedia...n_South_America

 

So now we have you and Dahlia who dont know basic facts and definitions.   She thinks Oklahoma is part of the geographic south and you try to define regimes in south america as fascists to make your point.   Clear examples of how our schools are failing.   Thanks for the history lesson on fascism.  Unfortunately you fail in application of concepts to examples to which I asked. 



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Posted 14 August 2017 - 07:45 AM

I'm with you Earthboy, I'm REPULSED!

YES, I support FREE SPEECH, yet these ALT-RIGHT, White Nationalist, KKK, American NAZI'S had no intention of any peaceful, non-violent protest.

THEY Showed up with Riffles, even FOX NEWS had an interview with one of them who bought along his Semi-Automatic so give me a break


"It is MY belief as well that it is the LEFT that PAYS PEOPLE to be troublesome "activists"

and that goes back DECADES. "


I guess all those demonstrators back during the Civil Rights Movement then where paid as THEY where considered TROUBLESOME activists back then. rolleyes

I think what I find the most appalling in this thread are those of Jewish decent defending this, remember, they hate you too. I can understand the angry old white guy, but those who had families murdered by Nazi's, SHAME SHAME SHAME

This IS NOT a Republican VS Democrats, Liberal VS Conservative, this is the same Oppressive movement started in the sixties, which has a LONG HISTORY, that reared it's ugly head again Very Publicaly after Obama was elected. Should we do a post of those arrested for conspiracy to kill Obama VS Trump?

Say whatever you want, but a lot of the post in here a SHAMEFUL. Our GREATEST GENERATION fought and died fighting the Axis power's and the Nazi's. You do a disservice to their memory


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 08:27 AM

The people who were in Charlottesville to voice their opposition and stand against the vile things marching in trump's name are true heroes, and anyone who would even begin to defend what trump said on Saturday are every bit as despicable as the nazi scum trump couldn't even denounce. And why should he? He's in charge, at least for a little while longer, until his life of crime is exposed by Mueller. 



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Posted 14 August 2017 - 08:38 AM

Yup. This thread is one of the worst displays I've seen of ignorance and bigotry. It literally turned my stomach reading it, as I realize you guys (and gal) are not alone. There's millions that unfortunately think like you.

Colored commie? Equating Black Lives Matter with white supremacy and neo nazis?? Wow! Scary shit, even from you guys. The BLM movement that has you all wound up was created after the senseless and outrageous killings of unarmed black men all over this nation by Law Enforcement. It's in no way a black supremacy movement, or even a hate group. There's anger and outrage, but it's deserved. There are a small amount of extremists as there are with any group.

My father passed away in Pompano a few months ago at 93. He survived the Holocaust, but lost many close relatives. He was a beautiful and passionate man. Many of his passions have influenced me. His passion for all nature and gardening. Also his passionate hatred of all wars as well as any form of bigotry.

I refuse to engage in back and forth discussions with a lot of you, as you seem so steeped in your ignorance. I do sincerely feel sorry for you, and pray for a glimmer of light to enter your lives some day.

My sincere condolences Earthboy on your father's passing.

Reads as if he was the kind of man I would really have related to.

Thank you for your post.

I too read these various post and am amazed at the hatred.

 

 

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 09:12 AM

I missed that in Earthboy's post.  :sad:  I am also sorry for your heartache Sweetheart.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 09:18 AM

I take issue with all you loons/msm that say I support nazi because I'm a Trump supporter. You dems have sank to new lows with your misinformation and lies, twisting of the truth. What bullshit...

Trump surrounds himself with Jews, has a part Jewish family, and his senior adviser is a Jew as are many in his admin. No Jew, or friends of Jews, likes nazi, period.
 
My relatives killed more nazi in 1 week back in the day, then all the nazi present at Charlottesville
last weekend. I'm disgusted by nazi, kkk, white supremacist, etc... And more then likely so are all the other republicans on this thread. Do we like it that nazi groups are even here in our country, hell no.!!! Some of you forum members don't know Jews very well at all. Some of you black dudes think you're the only ones ever been persecuted, well guess again, Jews have been persecuted/enslaved/hated for thousands of years.


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 09:47 AM

So you are proposing stripping the Constitutional rights away from American citizens who exercise their Constitution right?

 

Interesting concept, even for you.
 

The Constitutional right does not include violence and running over people with a car!!!   :crazy:

 

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 10:03 AM

I take issue with all you loons/msm that say I support nazi because I'm a Trump supporter. 

 

You lay with dogs, you get fleas!!!!   :Silly:  :Shame On You:

 

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 10:11 AM

Paulette our beliefs are formed by our " life experiences " and the " values " we have...

My love for family and God, knows no limits...

My hate for " wrong & evil " is proportionate...


My family was not Jewish ( catholic)... Yet I had " 3 Aunts " who were triplets...

You can read about what the Nazies did to children, who were twins & triplets... ( I searched, and found... and read specifically about my Aunts as children... What horrific pain, each of them suffered for months, till they were mercifully killed... )

My family is not Africian black... Yet, I had a cousin, who as a teenager fell in love with a black teenager...

The KKK Klansmen, caught them together... killed him, and a black friend of his... ( Killed & Tortured the teenage boys... )

My cousins body was found years later... Also tortured...


Some crimes we even, glorify ( watch the Godfather Trilogy... )

Some crimes so wrong, there is little forgiveness ( pedofilelia, treason, assassination, terrorism... )


For me, I have no need, to turn the other cheek... People choose the path they take in life...

Some organizations have no right to be protected by our laws... ( Communist Party, Nazies, NAMBLA, KKK, John Birch Soociety, Mafia, Criminal Cartels & Gangs, Escort Board Owners... And so many others... )

Paulette... It just my opinion... and thankfully for decades, my family has not been hurt by any of these vile groups...


As far as the rights of groups that are subversive and evil... I don't care if they are ever protected... But in reality our Constitution will protect them...

Example... I hate people who burn the American Flag... But I know they are protected... Protected by The Constitution...

One burns a flag in the street, where I stand, I will try to stop it...

One comes on to my property, to burn my flag, I will Constitutionally deal with an arsonist, who could possibly burn to death those, in my property...

It just me... It is righteous hate, for evil decisions & actions...



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What sickens me most are all these self proclaimed "patriots of freedom" doing their damndest to sidestep the REAL issues and hide behind the first amendment, not to mention trying to use it to divert from the truth.  You wackos all cheered when tRUMP made a big deal about Obama not using the term "radical Islam" but now defend your cheeto jesus for REFUSING to use the true terms for these domestic terrorists: Nazis, white supremacists, KKK etc and actually support his choice NOT to denounce their actions.  The orange buffoon not only refused to denounce their actions and use his klan's true labels, he turned his back and walked away when asked a direct question about his view of the white supremacists!! 

 

Trump Walks Away From Reporters After Being Asked To Denounce White Supremacists

 

These assholse showed up at a "peacful protest" (as so many of you pompous jackasses TRY to label it) with AR-15s over their shoulders and clad in riot gear INCLUDING shields!!!!!  I hate to burst your bubbles but these jackasses did NOT show up for a "peaceful protest".  WAKE UP YOU FUCKING LEMMINGS AND PULL YOUR NOSES OUTTA tRUMP'S ASS!!!!

 

And as for you Ms Wildthing Coulter, if bluntly pointing out the truth and exposing what one truly is when they try to hide behind our flag and Constitution that I, my son and MANY MORE volunteered to defend and die for is being a "bully" then I HAPPILY plead GUILTY!!!  I am sorry that you are upset that you cannot wrap your lips and pussy around me and whip me as you do your fellow wackos.  I refuse to fall for your "oh poor little me,  I am just a weak woman expressing my opinion" bullshit, take responsibility for your words and stop batting your eyes and shaking your ass when called out.

 

And to anyone offended by my outrage at the attempts of rationalization, defense and/or justification of this hate rally which resulted in death and carnage TOUGH SHIT!!!  No one will ever convince me that this event deserves nothing but condemnation and no amount of attempts to hide behind the flag and/or Constitution will EVER indicate anything but support for these miserable fucks, nor should any true American provide anything different.  Even the daughter on 45 condemned them, ask yourself why her father would not!!!

 

 

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 02:32 PM

Father of Virginia rally victim devastated by loss of his ‘baby girl’

 

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The woman killed when a deranged white supremacist drove his car into a crowd of anti-hate protesters in Virginia was a born do-gooder — and the apple of her father’s eye, the grieving dad told The Post on Sunday.

 

“She was my only daughter — she was my heart,” said a stricken Mark Heyer, struggling to find the words to describe his daughter, Heather Heyer, 32.

 

The dad, who lives in Florida, said his “baby girl,” a Charlottesville paralegal, was a social-justice warriorwho ended up making the ultimate sacrifice for her beliefs.

 

Heather Heyer’s Facebook cover photo, posted about a week after the 2016 presidential election, said, “If you’re not outraged, you’re not paying attention.”

 

“My daughter was fighting for equal rights, demonstrating against hatred and doing what she thought was right,” Mark Heyer said. “She ended up dying to prove it.

 

“I’m not ready for all this,’’ the dad added, his voice breaking. “I’m still working around the fact that my baby girl got killed.’’

 

Heyer was protesting so-called “Unite the Right” white-supremacists who had assembled in a Charlottesville park to decry the planned removal of a Confederate statue there.

 

She was mowed down by Nazi sympathizer James Alex Fields Jr., who allegedly plowed a Dodge Challenger through a pack of anti-racism protesters, injuring 19 other people.

 

Nine of the victims have been released from the hospital, and 10 others are in good condition, said a spokeswoman for the University of Virginia Health System in a statement Sunday

 

Fields is set to be arraigned on murder and other charges in Charlottesville Monday. He will appear for the hearing by video because of concerns that someone might try to assassinate him if he’s brought to the courthouse, a local police source told The Post.

 

“Threats have been made, and they’re being taken seriously,” the cop said.

 

Meanwhile, in other developments Sunday:

 

·         It surfaced that Fields was fascinated by Adolph Hitler and the Nazis even as a child and later did a short stint in the US Army.

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·         “Unite the Right” organizer Jason Kessler fled a press conference when he was punched by a man for trying to blame anti-racism protesters for Fields’ attack. Kessler was later tackled by a woman before escaping.

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·         President Trump’s daughter, Ivanka, and National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster unequivocally blamed white racists-turned-terrorists for the deadly, ISIS-style attack — which critics say Trump himself has failed to do.

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·         Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe demanded that Trump speak out more forcefully against racism — and said white supremacists “need to leave America, because they are not Americans.”

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Heather Heyer was a native of Greene County, Va., and graduated from William Monroe High School in Stanardsville, according to a GoFundMe page started by her friend Felicia Venita Correa. It had raised more than $200,000 by Sunday afternoon.

 

Heather worked as a paralegal in the bankruptcy department at the Miller Law Group in Charlottesville, according to the firm’s Web site.

 

Another Heyer friend, Marissa Blair, said they went to the anti-racism rally because “we had been witnessing everything that was going on.”

 

“We couldn’t have hate groups walking around our city with no peaceful opposition,” Blair told the DailyMail.com.

 

Heather’s mother, Susan Bro, told the Huffington Post that her daughter “always had a very strong sense of right and wrong, she always — even as a child — was very caught up in what she believed to be fair.

 

“Somehow I almost feel that this is what she was born to be, is a focal point for change. I’m proud that what she was doing was peaceful,” the mom said.

 

As for Fields, “he has now ruined his life as well as robbed a great many of us of someone we love very much. No mother wants to lose a child.

 

“But I’m proud of her,’’ she said of her daughter. “I’m proud of what she did.”

 

Heather’s dad said his daughter’s campaign against hate is inspiring him to forgive Fields despite the horrible atrocity.

 

“I can’t hate the man who did this to her because that would make me as bad as the people who did this,” he said.

 

“As far as I’m concerned, he was deceived by the devil.”

 


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1. "It's a total lie, never happened, fake news." 
2. "It happened, but it's not a big deal." 
3. "OK it might be a big deal, but it isn't illegal." 
4. "OK it's illegal, but Hillary and Obama something something, so it's OK." 
5. "Get over it, libturd, you're just a sore loser."


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 02:34 PM

What sickens me most are all these self proclaimed "patriots of freedom" doing their damndest to sidestep the REAL issues and hide behind the first amendment, not to mention trying to use it to divert from the truth.  You wackos all cheered when tRUMP made a big deal about Obama not using the term "radical Islam" but now defend your cheeto jesus for REFUSING to use the true terms for these domestic terrorists: Nazis, white supremacists, KKK etc and actually support his choice NOT to denounce their actions.  The orange buffoon not only refused to denounce their actions and use his klan's true labels he turned his back and walked away when asked a direct question about his view of the white supremacists!! 

 

Trump Walks Away From Reporters After Being Asked To Denounce White Supremacists

 

These assholse showed up at a "peacful protest" (as so many of you pompous jackasses TRY to label it) with AR-15s over their shoulders and clad in riot gear INCLUDING shields!!!!!  I hate to burst your bubbles but these jackasses did NOT show up for a "peaceful protest".  WAKE UP YOU FUCKING LEMMINGS AND PULL YOUR NOSES OUTTA tRUMP'S ASS!!!!

 

And as for you Ms Wildthing Coulter, if bluntly pointing out the truth and exposing what one truly is when they try to hide behind our flag and Constitution that I, my son and MANY MORE volunteered to defend and die for is being a "bully" then I HAPPILY plead GUILTY!!!  I am sorry that you are upset that you cannot wrap your lips and pussy around me and whip me as you do your fellow wackos.  I refuse to fall for your "oh poor little me,  I am just a weak woman expressing my opinion" bullshit, take responsibility for your words and stop batting your eyes and shaking your ass when called out.

 

 

 

 

??? RD, kindly point out WHERE I have behaved here IN ANY SUCH MANNER.

I simply posted my opinions clearly,

NOT EVEN a picture of myself in my signature (like OTHER ladies IN THIS THREAD).

 

I made NO FLIRTATIOUS comments, NO SEXUAL INNUENDOS and certainly never said I was "weak".

WHAT are you referring to?? 


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 03:11 PM

 

WHAT are you referring to?? 

 

The VAST MAJORITY of your "I LOVE tRUMP" posts.  

 

You and your fellow trumpladites are consummate proof that tRUMP was correct, "I could shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters".

 

And thanks for the "What? Lil ole innocent me?!?! It's just my opinion" support. Good act though.  ACTING nice while supporting hate doesn't wash.   :Rolling Eyes:

 

 As I said above, "You lay with dogs, you get fleas".  :Shame On You:


Edited by Ronon Dex, 14 August 2017 - 03:51 PM.

The Five Stages of Trumpism- 
1. "It's a total lie, never happened, fake news." 
2. "It happened, but it's not a big deal." 
3. "OK it might be a big deal, but it isn't illegal." 
4. "OK it's illegal, but Hillary and Obama something something, so it's OK." 
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Posted 14 August 2017 - 03:13 PM


The Five Stages of Trumpism- 
1. "It's a total lie, never happened, fake news." 
2. "It happened, but it's not a big deal." 
3. "OK it might be a big deal, but it isn't illegal." 
4. "OK it's illegal, but Hillary and Obama something something, so it's OK." 
5. "Get over it, libturd, you're just a sore loser."


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 03:51 PM

The MAJORITY of your "I LOVE tRUMP" posts.  And thanks for the "What? Lil ole innocent me?!?! It's just my opinion" support. Good act though.

 

 As I said above, "You lay with dogs, you get fleas".

 

 

Examples ... OR EVEN AN EXAMPLE? Go ahead ... IF they're the "majority"

of my "I love Trump" posts, you should have no trouble providing the proof to back up your mouth.

I KNOW you cannot because, I NEVER behave here as you described "oh poor little me,  I am just a weak woman expressing my opinion" bullshit, take responsibility for your words and stop batting your eyes and shaking your ass when called out.

 

go ahead IF YOU'RE ABLE, Get an example ... I'll wait ...  :Whistle: 

 

 

ps, RD, I know you like to "break up" things you quote, making them out of context 

to suit your agenda (or just change them altogether) ...

IF you quote any of my posts, please be man enough not to chop them up 

OR IF YOU MUST ... at least provide the LINK to my actual post(s) as well.


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 03:58 PM

Examples ... OR EVEN AN EXAMPLE? Go ahead ... IF they're the "majority"

of my "I love Trump" posts, you should have no trouble providing the proof to back up your mouth.

I KNOW you cannot because, I NEVER behave here as you described "oh poor little me,  I am just a weak woman expressing my opinion" bullshit, take responsibility for your words and stop batting your eyes and shaking your ass when called out.

 

go ahead IF YOU'RE ABLE, Get an example ... I'll wait ...  :Whistle: 

 

Are you REALLY that stupid?!?!?  Or should I ask, Do you really believe that everyone is that stupid?". You have been eating up every morsel of tRUMP's shit as if it were manna from heaven since he threw his hat in the ring AND never said one bad word about him even when he advocated violence, blatantly lied MANY times, bashed and belittled women and spewed racist remarks, you just keep your blinders on and lapping it up. What does it say about someone who continually supports a man who REPEATEDLY stabbs his closest supporters in the back, sometimes within days of praising them?!?!

 

And don't feign ignorance for one second that you are not aware of your followers who do so because you have a pussy.

 

PS: This thread has been up for a while now with 70 posts and you have YET to make one statement against the white supremacist KKK Neo-Nazis OR the murder and carnage committed by one as is the same for many of your fellow trumpladites, but you HAVE tried to defend them, speaks VOLUMES!!!! NEWSFLASH!!  

 

PPSS: The first amendment does NOT include protesting with AR-15s strapped to your backs and donning riot gear and shields.  Now do as usual, disappear,

 


Edited by Ronon Dex, 14 August 2017 - 04:19 PM.

The Five Stages of Trumpism- 
1. "It's a total lie, never happened, fake news." 
2. "It happened, but it's not a big deal." 
3. "OK it might be a big deal, but it isn't illegal." 
4. "OK it's illegal, but Hillary and Obama something something, so it's OK." 
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Posted 14 August 2017 - 04:01 PM

Are you REALLY that stupid?!?!?  Or should I ask, Do you really believe that everyone is that stupid?". You have been eating up every morsel of tRUMP's shit as if it were manna from heaven since he threw his hat in the ring AND never said one bad word about him even when he advocated violence, blatantly lied MANY times, bashed and belittled women and spewed racist remarks, you just keep your blinders on and lapping it up. What does it say about someone who continually supports a man who REPEATEDLY stabbed his closest supporters in the back some times within days of praising them?!?!

 

And don't feign ignorance for one second that you are not aware of your followers who do so because you have a pussy.

 

 

Uh huh ... that's what I thought. Have a nice day Ronon  :hi:


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 04:13 PM

And thanks for the "What? Lil ole innocent me?!?! It's just my opinion" support. Good act though.  ACTING nice while supporting hate doesn't wash.   :Rolling Eyes:

 

 

Uh huh ... that's what I thought. Have a nice day Ronon  :hi:

 

Once again, thanks for your support.  :fool:

 

The saddest part is that your fanatical zealous allegiance to tRUMP blinds you to what you are projecting.

 

And BTW, due to the board trolls I was not going to mention this but my son, daughter-in-law and myself attended the rally as counter protesters and saw first hand how the Nazi's exercised their first amendment right to "peacefully protest" so I for one did more than sport cyber muscles on an escort board.   :Sick:   


Edited by Ronon Dex, 15 August 2017 - 11:59 AM.

The Five Stages of Trumpism- 
1. "It's a total lie, never happened, fake news." 
2. "It happened, but it's not a big deal." 
3. "OK it might be a big deal, but it isn't illegal." 
4. "OK it's illegal, but Hillary and Obama something something, so it's OK." 
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Posted 14 August 2017 - 04:39 PM

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 04:53 PM

We didn't hear a peek from the black libtards when BLM was teaching people to chant " pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon" at their hate rallies. They forget every time that race has little to do with being a criminal, although crime and prison population data tell us a lot about where all the troublemakers come from. 

 

Nobody seems to be as race centrist as the victim class of socialist Libtards that rant in public and then really get steamed when they get ignored. Sort of like the occupy wall street losers.

 

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 05:43 PM

The next Civil War that was started by Obama is gathering momentum. LDL is only flaming the fire right here with his non stop race baiting socialists tantrums.

 

Those that start the shit are always the most surprised to see it get carried away and then claim that they are peace lovers. Libtards do this daily.

 

Yeah, white racists are marching through the streets with KKK hoods and swastikas and it's Obama's fault.  What a fucking idiot.

 

Hatred form one side or the other is just the same hatred in different shades of stupidiyattachicon.gifIt's a tie.jpg

 

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Sorry, but there is right and there is wrong.  My father fought, and lots of people died, to keep swastikas out of this country.  The KKK is now resurgent, with its history of lynchings and intimidation.  If hoods and swastikas ever come marching down my street there will be blood, and the first drop won't be mine.  I would like to think every patriotic American would agree... but I guess not.


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 10:38 PM

It's so sad that our politics have devolved to the point where it's viewed as some kind of improvement when the president of the united stated finally decides to denounce the KKK and their like. Even more sad is listening to people who've lost loved ones to the Nazis defend these same white supremacists who chant heil trump. 


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 10:54 PM

White supremacists cheer Trump’s response to Charlottesville violence  

 

"He said he loves us all."


Edited by Ronon Dex, 14 August 2017 - 10:55 PM.

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2. "It happened, but it's not a big deal." 
3. "OK it might be a big deal, but it isn't illegal." 
4. "OK it's illegal, but Hillary and Obama something something, so it's OK." 
5. "Get over it, libturd, you're just a sore loser."


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 10:58 PM

All I'm going to say is that it is not Trump's fault That members of white supremacist group voted for him, in the same way that it was not Obama's fault than members of the Black Panthers voted for him.

If you say that Trump is a white supremacist because they voted him, then you're also saying that Obama was a terrorist because the Black Panthers voted for him... if you say that the portrayal only applies to Trump, then you're obviously a hypocrite and as much of a libtard as everyone accuses you of being.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 11:02 PM

FOX NEWS BLAMES THE MEDIA, NOT NAZIS, FOR CHARLOTTESVILLE AND WHITE SUPREMACY

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2. "It happened, but it's not a big deal." 
3. "OK it might be a big deal, but it isn't illegal." 
4. "OK it's illegal, but Hillary and Obama something something, so it's OK." 
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Posted 14 August 2017 - 11:06 PM

All I'm going to say is that it is not Trump's fault That members of white supremacist group voted for him, in the same way that it was not Obama's fault than members of the Black Panthers voted for him.

If you say that Trump is a white supremacist because they voted him, then you're also saying that Obama was a terrorist because the Black Panthers voted for him... if you say that the portrayal only applies to Trump, then you're obviously a hypocrite and as much of a libtard as everyone accuses you of being.

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You FAIL (or decided to ignore) to realize that the Black Panthers nor any other minority org did not feel so emboldened by Obama as to stage hate rallies brandishing AR-15s, riot gear and shields or murder people in his name.   :Shame On You:

 

 

 

Hate groups increase for second consecutive year as Trump electrifies radical right 

 

 

Charlottesville Mayor Michael Signer says Trump campaign gave hate groups ‘a reason to come in the light’ 

 

 

How Donald Trump emboldened Charlottesville white supremacists   Trump's response to Charlottesville is another wink and nod to white supremacists

 

 

Hate on the Rise After Trump’s Election

 

 

Racist groups in US emboldened by arrival of Donald Trump   Irish Examiner Ltd

 

 

 

 


Edited by Ronon Dex, 14 August 2017 - 11:25 PM.

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2. "It happened, but it's not a big deal." 
3. "OK it might be a big deal, but it isn't illegal." 
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Posted 14 August 2017 - 11:18 PM

You FAIL (or decided to ignore) to realize that the Black Panthers nor any other minority org did not feel so emboldened by Obama as to stage hate rallies brandishing AR-15s, riot gear and shields or murder people in his name. :Shame On You:

Now go collect your free blowjob. :Rolling Eyes:


Hate groups increase for second consecutive year as Trump electrifies radical right Hate groups increase for second consecutive year as Trump electrifies radical right

Ummm... Reading is fundamental... I was not discussing any of those other Superfluous Concepts, I was just discussing the blame game and connecting Trump to White supremacists by virtue of the fact that they voted for him, just like rational person would not connect Obama to the Black Panthers because they voted for him. But, since you brought it up, if you don't think that any of these groups did not use the fact that Obama was President to further their own causes, in a violent way, then you are deluding yourself.

You also mentioned that hate groups increased their activity for the second consecutive year, that being 24 months. Considering the fact that Trump has only been president for 8 months, and only had been elected 2 months prior, the best-case scenario is that hate groups intensified for 14 months before Trump was even elected, putting that rise solidly during the Obama Administration. Math does not lie.

And what would getting a blowjob have anything to do with this topic at all. Including a stupid comment like that, especially in a serious political discussion, further degrades your credibility, even lower than it already is.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 11:27 PM

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The Five Stages of Trumpism- 
1. "It's a total lie, never happened, fake news." 
2. "It happened, but it's not a big deal." 
3. "OK it might be a big deal, but it isn't illegal." 
4. "OK it's illegal, but Hillary and Obama something something, so it's OK." 
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Posted 14 August 2017 - 11:57 PM

All I'm going to say is that it is not Trump's fault That members of white supremacist group voted for him, in the same way that it was not Obama's fault than members of the Black Panthers voted for him.

If you say that Trump is a white supremacist because they voted him, then you're also saying that Obama was a terrorist because the Black Panthers voted for him... if you say that the portrayal only applies to Trump, then you're obviously a hypocrite and as much of a libtard as everyone accuses you of being.

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For me, I don't say trump is a racist because racists voted for him. I'm saying they voted for him because trump is a racist. He's been a racist his whole life. As a developer, he was sued for denying housing to blacks. His casinos have been fined for excluding black employees from certain customers. He continued to say publicly that the black males in the central park 5 case were still guilty even though they were freed from prison thanks to dna evidence after being wrongfully convicted. Then there was his crusade to prove Obama was an illegitimate president with the birther bullshit. Throw in some of the policies of his administration, and the fact that his daddy was a racist....I can't figure out how anyone could label him anything but a racist.

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 12:20 AM

Twoshooz,

While I don't agree with your assessment, I appreciate your rational and well thought out expression of your opinion.
I wish more folks on this board would follow your example and express their opinions without devolving into insults and foul language.


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Posted 15 August 2017 - 01:11 AM

Jews may not replace them but somebody will.

 

There's an active effort by internet Nazi hunters to name and shame the Charleston white supremacists via Facebook and Twitter (good idea to carry tiki torches, they enabled very nice photos).

"Who's the Nazi? You're the Nazi"

Today they're starting to get fired and denounced by friends and families. Many more to come, I'm sure.

 

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 01:44 AM

All I'm going to say is that it is not Trump's fault That members of white supremacist group voted for him, in the same way that it was not Obama's fault than members of the Black Panthers voted for him.

If you say that Trump is a white supremacist because they voted him, then you're also saying that Obama was a terrorist because the Black Panthers voted for him... if you say that the portrayal only applies to Trump, then you're obviously a hypocrite and as much of a libtard as everyone accuses you of being.

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You don't get droves of a particular group to passionately rally behind you on accident. He hasn't, because he can't, come out and openly embrace white supremacist groups, but he's constantly used dog whistle politics throughout his campaign as a nod to these groups. He's re tweeted multiple things from white supremacists on twitter including outright false information about minority's crimes committed against whites... This is all very standard southern strategy politics that's been played for decades. As Lee Atwater would say, you can't say, "nigger, nigger, nigger - that hurts you. It backfires." 


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Posted 15 August 2017 - 05:25 AM


You FAIL (or decided to ignore) to realize that the Black Panthers nor any other minority org did not feel so emboldened by Obama as to stage hate rallies brandishing AR-15s, riot gear and shields or murder people in his name.


Hyperbole much?


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Posted 15 August 2017 - 05:34 AM

Wildthing, now you see first hand why I have some posters here on ignore status. When someone else quotes them I end up reading the drivel but otherwise I just don't pay attention. Don't take anything to heart that one particular asshole posts. He likes to rant and rage and it's probably, like ldrc, that he was abused by someone in the past (or maybe he has a tiny dick and tries to make up for it here). Either way, it's nonsense to be ignored.

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 06:38 AM

Why is he just being charged with murder ? This seems like an act of terror


Murder will give him the death penalty just the same, especially if a federal civil rights charge is attached.


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Posted 15 August 2017 - 07:55 AM

Rolling%20Eyes.gif ... Murder itself IS "an act of terror". Just like rape, armed robbery, child abuse and 

a myriad of other heinous crimes. 

 
ps, an act of terrorism is a whole different animal.

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 09:00 AM

Murder will give him the death penalty just the same, especially if a federal civil rights charge is attached.

 

So where the 9/11 hijackers just murderers ? 


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Posted 15 August 2017 - 09:05 AM

 

Rolling%20Eyes.gif ... Murder itself IS "an act of terror". Just like rape, armed robbery, child abuse and 

a myriad of other heinous crimes. 

 
ps, an act of terrorism is a whole different animal.

 

 

I.... don't think I understand. If rape, robery, child abuse etc. are an "act of terror", what is "an act of terrorism" ? 

 

Didn't realise adding ism could change the definition of a word so drastically 


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Posted 15 August 2017 - 09:21 AM

Trump gets Ellis Island Medal of Honor in 1986, takes pic alongside Muhammad Ali and Rosa Parks.

The Ellis Island Medal of Honor is awarded each year in celebration of “patriotism, tolerance, brotherhood and diversity”:

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 09:46 AM

I.... don't think I understand. If rape, robery, child abuse etc. are an "act of terror", what is "an act of terrorism" ? 

 

Didn't realise adding ism could change the definition of a word so drastically 

 

 

Well, it does.

 

The FIRST TIME I ever heard  "act of terror" used (instead a terrorist act which is what it was)

was in the rose garden when Obama blamed Benghazi on a Youtube video. 

After that, I noticed MANY on the "left wing" adopted the phrase to mean that but...

that doesn't make it accurate. 

 

ter·ror

 

ˈterər/
noun
 
  1. 1.
    extreme fear.
    "people fled in terror"
    synonyms: extreme fear, dreadhorror, fear and trembling, frightalarmpanic
    "she screamed in terror"
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  2. 2.
    informal
    a person, especially a child, who causes trouble or annoyance.
    "placid and obedient in their parents' presence, but holy terrors when left alone"
    synonyms: rascalroguerapscalliondevilimpmonkeymischief-makertroublemakerscalawagscampMore
     
     
     

 

 

ter·ror·ism

 

ˈterəˌrizəm/
noun
 
  1. the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
    "the fight against terrorism"
     
     

 


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Posted 15 August 2017 - 09:53 AM

Murder will give him the death penalty just the same, especially if a federal civil rights charge is attached.

 

 

Wrong...In Virginia there are 3 classes of murder

 

He was charged with 2nd degree murder...the LOWEST of the three

Punishment Minimum: 5 years Maximum: 40 years

 

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 09:55 AM

the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

 

So mowing down a group of political protesters isn't violence and intimidation in pursuit of political aims?.....................................

 

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 10:13 AM

 

Well, it does.

 

The FIRST TIME I ever heard  "act of terror" used (instead a terrorist act which is what it was)

was in the rose garden when Obama blamed Benghazi on a Youtube video. 

After that, I noticed MANY on the "left wing" adopted the phrase to mean that but...

that doesn't make it accurate. 

 

 

 

 

With all due respect (which is very little)   I'll go to other sources for a real explanation of terror, terrorism

and what the legal implications are when determining what is called terrorism 

 

But thanks for your contribution :hi:
 

 

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When is a crime a hate crime and when is it terrorism?
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By Doug Criss, CNN
Updated 7:50 AM ET, Mon August 14, 2017
 
 

(CNN)  A car mows down a group of counterprotesters at rally of white nationalists. The accused suspect reportedly has "extreme" views. In the aftermath of this comes a familiar question: Is it an act of terror? Is it a hate crime? Why are some violent acts labeled hate crimes or terrorism and others not? And does it even really matter?

 
 
 
What's terrorism?
Many people are calling what happened in Charlottesville, Virginia, this weekend a domestic terror attack. James Alex Fields Jr., 20, of Maumee, Ohio, is accused of running his Dodge Challenger into a crowd of people on Saturday during a white nationalist rally, killing a 32-year-old woman and injuring at least 19 others.
 
 
People note the similarities between this attack and other vehicle-ramming attacks ISIS supporters overseas have used to kill scores of people in recent years.
 
So does that mean what happened in Charlottesville was indeed terrorism?
 
The world has never really settled on standard definition of 'terrorism,' but the US Code of Federal Regulations defines it as "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives."
 
Once again, it all comes down to motive. Was there a political or ideological agenda behind the attack?
 
In another example, from March of this year, a white man named James Harris Jackson stabbed to death a black man in New York and said he did so as a "practice" run for more killings. Jackson was charged with murder in the second degree as a hate crime.
 
But Jackson also faces a terrorism charge in the case -- murder as an act of terrorism in the first and second degrees.
 
According to police, Jackson, a Baltimore resident, said he traveled to New York because it is the media capital of the world and he wanted to make a statement.
 
That was enough to convince the Manhattan District Attorney that Jackson should be charged with terrorism.
 
"James Jackson prowled the streets of New York for three days in search of a black person to assassinate in order to launch a campaign of terrorism against our Manhattan community and the values we celebrate," he said.
 
 
 
Why are some attacks not called terrorism?
In many cases, the attacks, at first glance, seem like they should be labeled terrorism. But they're not.
 
In the Fresno shootings, Muhammad yelled "Allahu Akbar" (the Arabic phrase translates to "God is greatest"), but police don't believe the attacks are terrorist acts. They have yet to explain why.
 
"Based on the information that we have been provided and our investigation has shown, is that this is solely based on race," Fresno Police Chief Jerry Dyer said. "It has nothing to do with terrorism, in spite of the statements he made."
 
Think back to Dylann Roof and the killing of nine people at historically black Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in June 2015. Roof, a white supremacist, said he killed the nine attendees of a Bible study at the church because he wanted to start a race war. He was convicted of hate crimes and sentenced to death, but never charged with terrorism.
 
That's despite an outcry from many who said what Roof did was, in their eyes, the textbook definition of terrorism. In an CNN Digital opinion piece, CNN National Security Analyst Peter Bergen wondered what the US would have called the attack if Roof had been a Muslim.
 
"But do the thought experiment: If this attack on the church in Charleston had been conducted by a Muslim man shouting 'Allahu Akbar,' what is already a big news story would have become even bigger, as it would appear to fit so well into the political and media narrative that Muslim militants are the major terrorist problem in the United States," Bergen writes.
 
His comments get at what some observers have been saying for years -- some acts of violence are only labeled terrorism if the attacker is dark-skinned and Muslim.
 
"There's a danger that we only use the word 'terrorism' to refer to a particular racial profile of perpetrator," said Andrew Mumford with the Center for Conflict, Security and Terrorism. "The Charleston example is a really important one ... Sometimes (the label) terrorism is not used when the nationality of the perpetrator does not fit conventional stereotypes."
 
 
 
Why does it matter what you call it?
There are legal distinctions to calling an act of violence a hate crime or terrorism.
 
Labeling something a "hate crime" can make the law come down much harder on a defendant. It adds a new serious charge that can come with a heavy additional sentence.
 
In 2013, a Mississippi judge sentenced Deryl Dedmon -- a white man who killed James Craig Anderson, an African-American, in a clearly racist attack -- to two concurrent life terms.
 
He and friends had expressly set out for a night of targeted hassling of black people, screaming racial insults and yelling, "White power."
 
Though it's the states that try hate crimes as a rule, federal authorities can push forward their investigation and prosecution.
 
 
Take Dedmon's example. He caught the wrath of the federal government as well. He was sentenced to 50 years in a federal prison.
 
Labeling something as terrorism has legal ramifications, too, and is not applied lightly.
 
Federal officials work with a very specific definition of when something is an act of domestic terrorism.
 
It has to have three characteristics: an act that takes place in the United States, that's dangerous to human life, and is intended to intimidate civilians or affect government policy by "mass destruction, assassination or kidnapping."
 
Probably the best example is the Fort Hood shooting in 2009. To the victims at the Texas base, it was an act of terror, when Maj. Nidal Hassan opened fire on his fellow service members.
 
But federal authorities never used the terrorism label. It met some of the criteria, but it was a legal move. Avoiding the label made it easier for them to pursue the death penalty.
 
At the end of the day, does it really matter if something is or isn't labeled a hate crime or an act of terror? The pain and anguish felt by the survivors of such violence and the victims' families is just as unbearable ... no matter what you call it.

 

CNN's Eric Levenson, Hailey Middlebrook, Shachar Peled and Alanna Petroff contributed to this report. It also contains information previously published in a CNN piece in 2015.

 


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Posted 15 August 2017 - 10:55 AM

the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

 

So mowing down a group of political protesters isn't violence and intimidation in pursuit of political aims?.....................................

 

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Dahlia, I NEVER EVEN MENTIONED THAT. You just did. ALL I POSTED WAS: 

 

 Rolling%20Eyes.gif ... Murder itself IS "an act of terror". Just like rape, armed robbery, child abuse and 

a myriad of other heinous crimes. 

 
ps, an act of terrorism is a whole different animal.

 

please DON'T ADD things to my posts

and act as if what you've added is something I said.

 

... and BTW, I didn't MAKE the words different, they ARE different.

Complain to Webster about it.


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Posted 15 August 2017 - 11:10 AM

I didn't add anything to your post. I quoted you and asked a question... which you haven't answered. No need to be so defensive about.

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 11:17 AM

I didn't add anything to your post. I quoted you and asked a question... which you haven't answered. No need to be so defensive about.

 

 

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Here's what I believe, I believe the left is FREAKING OUT because,

52 YEARS of propaganda is NO LONGER WORKING.

 

WHATEVER the LAW decides to classify

the truly awful and sad events as... it's NOT Trump's fault it happened and ...

I don't BELIEVE his "approval rating" is going ANY WAY BUT UP.


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Posted 15 August 2017 - 11:21 AM

 

Well, it does.

 

The FIRST TIME I ever heard  "act of terror" used (instead a terrorist act which is what it was)

was in the rose garden when Obama blamed Benghazi on a Youtube video. 

After that, I noticed MANY on the "left wing" adopted the phrase to mean that but...

that doesn't make it accurate. 

 

 

 

"Terror" has been used as short hand for terrorism since bush began the war on terror. Did you believe at that point that bush was waging a war on a state of being frightened ? 


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